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Handgame of the Kiowa, Kiowa Apache and Comanche - Vol. 1 Carnegie Roadrunners vs. Billy Goat Hill

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Catalog No: IH 2501

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23 handgame songs sung by these two teams during an actual game. More than 60 singers. Liner notes include original Kiowa handgame rules.


Carnegie Roadrunners, Billy Goat Hill

Recorded at:

Carnegie, Oklahoma, November 24, 1968. Recorded live.


Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, Comanche


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About this Recording
About this Recording
Handgame is a very old hide & guess game which has long been popular among tribes of the Plains, Great Basin, Plateau, and Northwest Coast. The game differs in detail from tribe to tribe, but the basics are usually similar. There are two groups—one side hiding, and the other guessing, and vice versa. It is called handgame because a small marked bone or stick is concealed in the hand of the hider.

The Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, and Comanche all play the same style of handgame. It is played in the winter, and nowadays is primarily for fun and recreation, although in earlier years players would bet heavily on the outcome of the game. Players are not usually in organized teams, but in the past few years a few handgame teams have been formed with definite memberships.

The Carnegie Roadrunners and Billy Goat Hill are perhaps two of the biggest and best-sounding teams in southwest Oklahoma. The Carnegie Roadrunners is an all Kiowa team, and Billy Goat Hill is a Kiowa Apache team with a number of Kiowa and Comanche members.

On November 24, 1968, the Carnegie Roadrunners hosted Billy Goat Hill for an afternoon and evening of handgame. In the afternoon they played three games. Billy Goat Hill won the first, and the Roadrunners won the second and third. Following supper, the two teams played a very close and outstanding game. The first part of this game is presented in this recording, unedited, just the way it was played. We are very grateful to everyone who helped make this recording possible.
Starting song sung by both teams

Arapaho and Sac & Fox songs sung by Carnegie Roadrunners

Comanche song sung by Billy Goat Hill

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